Q: How do we beat the bitch?
McCain: [Laughs]...That's an excellent question.
Judgment, John McCain style.
Class, John McCain style.
Outreach to Clinton supporters, John McCain style.
If you liked eight years of frat boy George Bush, you'll love it John McCain style.
Apologies for a short diary, but I think this is an important point that I don't want to get lost as a comment.
It's important to point out the RBC choices for Michigan were 69 Clinton - 59 Obama or 73 Clinton - Zero Obama - 55 Uncommitted (setting aside the 50/50 option). Team Obama did not have to choice to give Clinton the full 73 and get 55 pledged and done. The price for giving Clinton the full 73 was giving up (at least for the moment) all 55.
So again, the choices for Obama were 59 pledged delegates or Zero pledged delegates. There was no choice to get 55 and give Clinton 73. If your choice was 59 or Zero, what would you choose?
In short, the driving factor wasn't "let's 'steal' four delegates from Clinton." My guess is Team Obama would've been more than happy to give the full 73 Clinton if they could've had 55 Obama. That wasn't a choice.
For some reason 4 lousy delegates either way is the BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!
Even though it would blow the party apart if a Soviet-style Michigan primary became the margin to make a Clinton nomination -- which is very unlikely to occur anyway -- fighting to reflect the exact result of that ridiculous primary is the BIGGEST THING EVER!!!
If it really doesn't matter for the outcome, why are we fighting about this?
If it really DOES matter for the outcome, can we really have a flawed, one-candidate-on-the-ballot primary determine the nominee?
It's all just so stupid...
Taking Hillary Clinton at her word that every vote should count and the will of the voters should be respected one inescapable conclusion is readily apparent: 238,168 Michigan voters in the Democratic primary who had the choice to vote for Clinton affirmatively voted for Uncommitted instead. They said "No, I don't want Clinton, I want someone else."
Under the Clinton rules it's clear: Uncommitted delegates should represent the will of the voters. They must not vote for Clinton at the convention.
If Clinton intends to go Nuclear to obtain a prize that, should she actually get it, will be a hollow, shattered, dripping-with-bad-blood shell of the real thing, she should at least present a coherent rationale for the Nuclear delegates. Arguing that Uncommitted delegates should be free to vote for her just further twists the knife she sticking into the heart of the party.
(Preface: I am an Edwards supporter who voted for Obama after Edwards dropped out. As you can see from my DKos page and comments page I've stayed out of the online Clinton-Obama wars. I'm not 'trolling' over here to stir the pot.)
As an a Obama supporter I just have to make this clear to Clinton supporters and the Democratic party: If a disputed Michigan delegation provides the margin for a Clinton nomination, that is simply a bridge too far for me. An election with only one name on the ballot is no way to choose an nominee, let alone be the determinative difference.
As I see stories of how supposedly Michigan is becoming Clinton's secret weapon, with Clinton trying to get some of the uncommitted delegates in addition to her tainted, one candidate election, pledged delegates, I say this in candor and sincerity to my Clinton supporting friends -- Be very careful, because you're playing with fire. Michigan cannot provide the decisive delegate votes.
In California, Democrats are running to unseat Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a political persona so ungenuine that he had his minions create a street pothole for a photo op (!); who continually claims to be above special interests while rolling in their money; a man who had his entire agenda soundly rejected by the electorate less than a year ago -- in short, an opponent who has provided ample material to discredit him on his own merits -- and yet this is what the California Democratic Party is running on television right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKSFTqz7w DU
Whatever media firm did this ad should be fired immediately. If the entrenched Democratic consultant class in Sacramento can't see that this race should be about Governor Pothole, not George W. Bush, they should all be fired.
If this is the best the CDP I certainly hope some heads roll if we lose this November. Rank and file Democrats deserve better.
(If someone in comments could how to embed Youtube in these posts I'd appreciate it. Placing the embed code alone in the post didn't seem to work. Thanks.)
Here's the question: Couldn't any Senator make a motion to reconsider the bill and request a rollcall vote? If so, why not do that and make the pro-lynching faction declare themselves? It really is an outrage there wasn't a rollcall vote on this measure.
The conventional answer is we need to avail ourselves of whatever opportunity we have to cut into the Noise Machine. However, perhaps we're looking at this the wrong way. They need us -- our token representation -- to maintain their charade that they're playing it fair. If destroying this charade and this bias is a critical element in returning Democrats to power, why are we continuing to enable it?
Why not attack it directly, call them on the bias and refuse to participate until they correct it? Why not cut them off?
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