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Re: It's Barack, not Barrack (2.00 / 1)

Your attitude does your candidate no favors.


by aggieric on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:51:38 PM EST
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Re: It's Barack, not Barrack (2.00 / 5)

That goes double for the diarist.

Not a good word about her, except that she's dishonest.

What a bizarre diary.


by Jordache on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:23:18 PM EST
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It's drive-by JJ (1.75 / 4)

Good to see you screaming through the diary, throwing firebombs.


by bookish on Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:33:00 PM EST
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And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (1.50 / 2)

How's it goin', you crazy kids?


by bookish on Mon May 12, 2008 at 06:10:46 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (none / 0)

Good evening bookish.

Just thought I'd say hello. Tell you a lovely story that family members over heard on Mother's Day at the local video store. About how women can't be president because of hormones. Seems it was the opinion of the over heard that women might start a war if they were PMSing. I wish that I could say they were joking. But nope. That's what they heard.
I'm one of what they call here "uppity females". I have hoisted a 75lb feed bag and worn heels to church. Did both because someone needed to and well I was the one delegated to do so. No saint. But well, I'm getting an uneasy feeling that Sen. Clinton's biggest hurdle is that she is female. An uppity female. Seems a shame. A waste.

I hope that it really is differences in policy.

I don't mind a fair fight but oh bookish. It don't feel that way.

Now hop on in here and tell me you're female and disagree and why. I could use the encouragement. Seriously.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 06:39:48 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (2.00 / 1)

I'm sure there are men down at the hardware store in my hometown that feel the same way. That's why I got the fuck out of there. Most of them vote Republican.

This isn't about race and it's not about gender. It's about people choosing the individual each one of us feels is the best person for the job and for the country. I take it you and I disagree on that person. But don't think my decision is about your candidate's gender in the same way I don't think your decision is about my candidate's race.

Quite honestly, your response has nothing to do with my former comment, or any of my former comments for that matter. I don't think it's about my problem, whatever it is you imagine that to be. So maybe you need to ask yourself why you felt the need for that little soliloquy.


by bookish on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:13:28 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (2.00 / 1)

Hello Bookish,

Not everyone has the luxury of leaving when they don't like the politics. Some of us don't leave we stick it out.

In your comment you said--

"...This isn't about race and it's not about gender. It's about people choosing the individual each one of us feels is the best person for the job and for the country. I take it you and I disagree on that person. But don't think my decision is about your candidate's gender in the same way I don't think your decision is about my candidate's race..."

Good for you.

Not everyone feels like that. Including those folks in your hardware store or the ones in my video store. Therefore, I come to the internet for support. What do I find on the internet? Well not support. Just alot of fussin'.

Look bookish. You don't know me. You don't know who I will and won't vote for. I'm still working that out. So unless you are somehow psychic, you have no clue. I am in a kind of vetting process for each candidate. Ironic. I was just commenting else where on the internet that for me, this election was hopefully going to be one of the easier ones because all three of the finalists have a voting record in the same governing body, on the same issues, in the same time period. I don't have to project what say a governor would do. I just put my issues on a spread sheet and look who matches. I don't have to engage in spin for one candidate or the other.
I'm a voter. I don't spin. But I certainly do vote.

As I look out in the world I see folks for whom gender and yes race are  big issues. And they vote. It's disheartening. I would hope that if gender or race are not an issue  in your world you could give encouragement to us folks out here where it is.

Definately not a way to win one over to Sen. Obama's team. I wonder if this is the reason why Sen. Clinton supporters are not very happy at the prospect of supporting  a Sen. Obama candidacy?
Perhaps they sense that they really won't be welcome to Team Obama. Perhaps they feel it's in their best interest to keep fighting.

Just a thought.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:26:11 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (none / 0)

Bookish, I'm not in anyway picking on you. The subject just came up and was mentioned here.

For anyone reading.

Folks do come to the internet for information concerning the candidates. They use this information to decide who to vote for. Not to promote them. Not to be their cheerleaders. But simply information gathering. They also may come, like me, from heavily Republican areas looking for support. You know. Mercy knows what they must think. I know what I'm beginning to think. A lot of fussin and fighting but no comraderie.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:51:25 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (none / 0)

You seem to be accusing me of speculative leaps, and yet your response is rife with them, as well.

I think you gave me plenty of room to suggest that you were leaning to Senator Clinton. Your gender-centric response to my original post (which had nothing to do with the subject) spoke to your personal experience with sexism and its relation to the candidacy of one of the Democrats in the race. I didn't make a full leap, but rather told you that I took (based on your post) that you supported Senator Clinton; and despite your words that you are somehow undecided, I still sense that you are listing hard toward one of the remaining Dems.

I never claimed to know you, only to have distilled some assumptions from your words. I hope you'd return the favor for me.

As for the positivism you think I should provide to those who've spent their days spreading dissent and smears for the probable nominee, I'm tired of being held hostage to the hurt they feel. The constant threats of jettisoning the party in an act of sheer spite gives me no pause or desire to comfort them. I've made not claim to be a good person about this, though I'm doing my best to remain civil in most cases.

I'm not here to welcome anyone to "Team Obama." I'm not employed by the campaign and not beholden to it more than insomuch as it serves a means to achieving what I think is best for the country at this particular point in time. I am not its standard bearer or compass. I am simply someone who has settled on a candidate that suits my concerns.

I wish you good luck in finding a meaning in one of the two candidates we have to choose from. I have found mine and am satisfied.


by bookish on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:52:29 PM EST
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Re: And her trusty sidekick, zerosum (none / 0)

'er okay.

Have a nice life to you too.

Sheesh.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 10:57:40 PM EST
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