but why is it that BO supporters want to make everything about him. this is not. read the last sentence of the diary - it says it all. thanks.
The reason I bring it back to racism is that your diary is implying that HRC is not the candidate because of sexism. If the candidate were a white male and we had not seen all the racist shit hurled at Obama, I might agree with you. Hell, I would probably still be an HRC supporter. However, we've seen both in this campaign. I'm not saying either is worse. I'm saying it's a wash, and that is not the reason her campaign fell apart.
there are plenty of good eggs among us Obama supporters. There are also a few people who are infrected with "primary insanity"
you are right - i stand correct it.
Hey canadian gal, how does the canadian media treat Hillary? Is it the same as here?
no not really. but some of the narrative 'themes' tend to get picked up through the various wires like ap, reuters, etc. i think great britain is just as bad though.
my parents live in India and the media love the Clintons, but there is an increased interest about Obama because of his background
the WORLD is watching this election.
is just really v. sad about the media though.
referring the over the line supporters, but I still wanted to make the distinction to be sure.
that's nice. as her parent it would be advisable to try and dissuade her from presidential aspirations though.
lol - for real? i guess you didnt bother looking at those links i provided or you're one of those that excuses bad behaviour as long as it benefits your interests types...
don't you tell me what behavior I excuse.
Lousy, rotten things have been said about both candidates. And I've denounced on this blog many of rotten things said about Hillary by the media and other bloggers.
your comment was "America will elect a woman President when the right candidate comes along."
this suggests that the disgusting treatment i showed is okay because its HRC who you clearly oppose.
whatever.
excuse or dont. its up to you.
Actually, it doesn't. Despite the vile media treatment, if Clinton hadn't run a shoddy campaign, she would be the next president of the US. This doesn't excuse the sexist and misogynist crap from the media (nor does it excuse the crap from Obama ("claws come out", "periodically", or "strident" in the post NC/IN primary press release), but it does mean that the US will eventually elect a woman president, we would have this year, if not for Obama's excellent campaign and Clinton's sloppy campaign.
It is conceivable that media sexism cost Clinton the margin of victory (although media racism has been nearly as bad, if different, racism and sexism operate in different manners in the US), but they didn't do Clinton as much harm as Mark Penn's incompetence. If she'd recognized his big state strategy for the disaster it turned out to be, she'd be the next president.
again - no where in this post do i discuss the primary, HRC or BO's campaign strategy, math, superdelegtes etc.
Seriously,
Where do you get off claiming that this country isn't ready or that Hillary has to be the chosen one.
Tell me which women you have voted into public office and we can compare notes.
I've voted for Ann Richards, Anne Eshoo, Boxer and Feinstein. Ann Richards was as feisty a governor as you could ever hope for (especially with her Bush "born with a silver spoon in his mouth" comment).
Don't pretend that just because your candidate ran a lousy campaign and ruined her own chances that she ruined it for all the really smart women in my generation.
Hillary wasn't a Rhodes Scholar. One of my female classmates in undergrad was (and she was damn impressive) and I know two more female Rhodes Scholars. Trust me, the US isn't hurting for accomplished women 40 and under.
Answer the question about why our daughters should weep when there are plenty of strong female candidates out there.
because our society has made sexism permissible. this is not about having strong candidates, rather how this one was treated by the media.
Sorry if I was unclear, I'm disagreeing with you disagreeing with a commenter about whether the vile media bias that you have been documenting means that we won't have a female president in the near future (next two decades). I think that Clinton, despite the vile media treatment, has demonstrated that it is possible for a woman to run a presidential campaign that will be treated seriously, and that misogyny and sexism are not so crippling that it would be impossible for a strong female candidate to win. I don't mean that Clinton isn't a strong candidate, obviously she is, and she came very close to winning.
I have no disagreement with your original post.
You're kidding, right? Hillary Clinton has paved a path that no other woman before has done, and in the process made it easier for all those that follow - and you're ready to throw it all away to make some petulant little point because she came up a little short?
I believe that it's been a hard road for her. It's a hard road for anyone who wants to be president. But when I read what you wrote I think that I hold your candidate in higher regard than you do. And that's too bad.
you're right - HRC has paved the way. unfortunately its not one that many women will rush towards seeing as how she has been treating by a largely sexist press corps.
and i think its highly unlikely that you hold HRC in a higher regard than i do. but if so - great!
I don't discount her historic achievements simply because she failed to win. Or appears to have failed to win, if you prefer.
I don't actually believe that you do, either. But even in snark to suggest that the road to the white house won't be considerably easier for the next woman thanks to her efforts is dismissive.
You can be disappointed in what she didn't achieve without discarding all she did.
nor do i discount her achievements and yes, the next woman who runs will (possibly?) have learned alot from this election cycle. but for certain, many would take a long hard pause before moving forward. a few months ago i heard a radio show panel discussing this - ill try and dig it up for you.
To make the leap that because Hillary is not going to be President this time around, NO woman can be President is fairly disgusting. Hillary has a lot of positives, but she also has a lot of negatives, and ran a not great campaign. There is plenty of room for another woman to run without Hillary's deficiencies and take the White House. Don't sell the rest of the female gender short because Hillary didn't quite make it this time around.
Sorry. You'll have to spell out what you mean by indifference.
