Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women

Just a week after he clinched the nomination, Obama's lead among women versus McCain is just as strong as the one Hillary Clinton enjoyed. Gallup has a piece up today detailing how women who had previously been undecided in an Obama/ McCain matchup are now coming home to the Dems. According to Gallup's polling, Obama now has a 13-point lead among women, and even leads among older women.

This surge in support is due almost entirely to Hillary's departure from the race and endorsement of Obama:

These figures are based on aggregated Gallup Poll Daily tracking interviews with national registered voters conducted May 27-June 2 (the week immediately before Obama clinched the nomination on June 3), which showed Obama and McCain tied at 46%, and June 5-9 (the five days since it was reported that Clinton would suspend her campaign), which show Obama ahead, 48% to 42%. Obama clinched the nomination on the evening of June 3, and the news media reported Clinton would suspend her campaign on the evening of June 4. Thus, the data give a clear picture of voter support before and after Clinton's exit.

Remarkably, Obama now matches the level of Hillary's support in Gallup's polling:

While campaigning for president, Clinton demonstrated an especially strong appeal to women. She led McCain by 52% to 40% in her final full week as a candidate, exactly equal to the average since mid-March. By comparison, Obama held only an average 47% to 42% lead over McCain among women during the same time span. At least for now, he seems to be matching Clinton's performance among women versus McCain, given his current 13-point lead among female voters.

Even among older women, where Obama had previously trailed McCain 43-46, he now leads, 47-41. And among women age 18 to 49, Obama simply trounces McCain, leading 56-35, a 21-point margin.



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Women (none / 0)

So in theory Women will carry Obama to victory as they are 50% of the population (I would assume they register to vote more than men too).


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:38:42 AM EST

Re: Women (2.00 / 4)

Women carried him to victory in the primaries too. Despite the bleating of female preference for Clinton, Obama usually carried the female vote for women under 40 or so. And the majority of voters in the primaries were women.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:00:18 PM EST
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Re: Women (2.00 / 1)

Hot off the presses,

Bravenewfilms exlusive:

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:03 PM EST
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Re: Women (none / 0)

How about the women over 40?

Don't they count too, or are they too shriveled up to matter?


by Sieglinde on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 04:19:01 PM EST
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Re: Women (none / 0)

Thats a useful addition to the conversation.


I read the body count out of the paper; now it's written all over my face.
by JDF on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:21:47 PM EST
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In theory yes (2.00 / 1)

coming from a white male, I can tell you that everyone but white males will carry a Democrat to victory.

White males would carry a Democrat to landslide.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 01:06:06 PM EST
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Re: Women (none / 0)

This will only hold true if Obama wins 100% of women. The real scenario is that McCain's margin among men must be slightly better than Obama's margin among women for McCain to win.

I expect McCain to take men by a margin of 5-10 points and Obama to take women by a margin of 10-15, giving Obama an overall margin of victory of 0-5% in the popular vote.


by Hammy on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 01:41:57 PM EST
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Re: Women (none / 0)

That only holds if voters are 50% male/50% female by default.... Usually women make up a higher percentage of the electorate.


by nwodtuhs on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 04:13:07 PM EST
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Re: Women (none / 0)

I think it's close to 55/45 split for women.  Women always vote in larger numbers than men.  

That's why the Dems can lose the male vote, and still win, even if their margin of victory among women is less than the margin of loss among men.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:02:51 PM EST
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Has it ever occurred to anybody (none / 0)

that maybe nobody is going to get 100% of any demographic group, and that the decision might be decided on something OTHER than demographics?

I know.  It's a shocking thought.  People might vote on the war or the economy this year.  The same polls that you guys are sifting through for demographic numbers also sift voters by the issues they care about, as well.

If Bush can fix the economy, lower gas prices,  and get us out of Iraq before November, maybe McCain has a chance.  HAhahahaha...


by Dumbo on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:42:37 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (2.00 / 4)

And this is before we've had a chance to let women know about the real McCain and his stances on myriad women's issues, how he abandoned his former wife for a much younger model and what he called his current wife once in public. There's no way women will be flocking to McCain once we're done with him, no way at all.


by Quinton on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:40:01 AM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (2.00 / 4)

The story on how he rejected his wife who WAITED for him his whole term in Vietnam only for him to come home, cheat on her, and marry a millionaire heiress 17 years younger than her.

All because she had a car accident that disfigured her.

This story should bury McCain in the eyes of anyone women or man that has a shred of empathy.

Here is a good breakdown of the story,  watch it, you will find out some FASCINATING stuff about the story.


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:46:10 AM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (2.00 / 4)

"Consarn it! I knew we never shouldda given wimmins the vote! Pancakes!"


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:47:34 AM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

These kind of national polls are just beauty contests, as we don't have a popular vote but an electoral college.

The only relevant thing (if any are this far ahead) are state by state polls, specifically in OH, PA FL VA CO,MO

The rest are a waste of time.


by NY Writer on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:51:20 AM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Day to day ups and downs, yeah I agree. But when it's a major surge in one demographic following the departure of a candidate from the race - I think we should be paying attention, don't you?

Look at it this way, if McCain had a huge surge among women following HRC's concession, that would be worth talking about.


by animated on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:58:23 AM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Oh Lord, would we hear about that!


by Bush Bites on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:10:46 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

"These kind of national polls are just beauty contests, as we don't have a popular vote but an electoral college."

You might have noticed that the popular vote almost always (well over 90% of the time) correlates with the Electoral College.

Or maybe you haven't ...


by Collideascope on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:06:41 PM EST
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good points, (none / 0)

as only in 4 elections, has the winner not won the popular vote (meaning a plurality or better of votes), which occured in 1824, 1876, 1888, and 2000. Three of them were Republicans. No Democrat has ever won the White House without the popular vote. TO be exact, of the 5 elections we have had, the winner has won the popular vote 52 times, or 92% of the time.

However, in a close election, the possibility of a popular vote loser like Bush getting elected is high. Of elections closer than 4 points nationally,   of 12 elections since 1824 when pop votes were first counted, 4 of them were won by a popular vote loser, meaning 33 percent. So there is some concern. Obama does need to work on women in certain parts of the country. But this means if we are ahead nationally by a comfortable margin, we don't need to worry as much, but still.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:22:36 PM EST
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Re: good points, (2.00 / 1)

It very nearly happened in 2004 - had Ken Blackwell not pulled a Katherine Harris and summarily thrown black people off the rolls, and had registered voters not been turned away in Cayuga county, we may very well have seen a Democrat win the electoral college but lose the popular vote.

Edwards wanted to fight Ohio's certification, but Kerry didn't, and that was that.


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:15:06 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

How about Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada, and Wisconsin?

How about Georgia where Bob Barr could pull enough of the vote to put it into play?

How about Arkansas where Hillary and others will have sway with the voters (Hillary or Blanche Lincoln will put this state into play.)?


I read the body count out of the paper; now it's written all over my face.
by JDF on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:26:35 PM EST
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Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (2.00 / 1)

ignore it because the GE was not till November.


You may not agree with What I say but don't forget I am a Democrat
by indydem99 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:53:15 AM EST

Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (none / 0)

So you agree it is foolish to ignore this poll?


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:57:35 AM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (none / 0)

Haven't you heard?

It's called hypocrisy.


by soyousay on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:20:16 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (2.00 / 2)

Look: if any one of us starts saying that we should overturn an election based on these polls, you can call it hypocrisy.


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:17:26 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (none / 0)

You guys/girls  have to learn about context someday, it really puts things in perspective


Democrat for the democratic nominee
by KLRinLA on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 03:37:20 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (2.00 / 8)

See, the difference would be that general election polls taken during a heated primary are premature. General election polls taken during a general election are not.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:23:43 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (none / 0)

Thanks, you beat me to it.


by steampunkx on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:57:00 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (2.00 / 2)

And the people that asked you that were proven to be right: those polls you quoted were mostly meaningless given the vastly improved ratings of Obama now that he's the Democratic nominee -- just like many people predicted.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 03:04:04 PM EST
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Re: Every time I quoted a poll I was asked to just (none / 0)

No, you're misunderstanding the way the polls were being used.

During the primary, the Clinton-vs-McCain numbers were better than the Obama-vs-McCain numbers, and some people were arguing that the superdelegates should ignore the will of the electorate and give the nomination to Sen. Clinton on the basis of those polls. The superdelegates rightly ignored them. (Those polls were misleading for a couple of different reasons.)

But in this diary, the polls are being used to think about strategy for the general election. If Sen. Obama were polling weaker among women, then he would have needed to concentrate on winning their support. But since he's already got so much support, he's better off concentrating on get-out-the-vote efforts.

You can still ignore the polls if you want. High-level campaign people need to look at them in detail, but for the rest of us the polls are just a fun diversion.


by mazement on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 08:39:54 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (2.00 / 2)

It's great to see this so soon. I agree that when women learn about McCain's positions on reproductive rights, he will be even further behind.  Those suburban white women in the Philly suburbs (and similar places) are not going to vote for a guy who is anti-choice and in favor of the global gag rule.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:28 PM EST

The ONLY thing this tells us... (2.00 / 2)

All the nail biting about Hillary as VP bringing in the women's vote is probably a bit overblown.  At this stage, I guess one could argue, this number will grow even larger given time as things chill a bit.  Nobody has yet focused on what McCain really means to women's rights yet, some are still bitter over the primary campaign, etc.  So, if the numbers are this large now, watch out!  

This is a very good sign.


Let's elect a Dem President!
by SpanishFly on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 02:37:59 PM EST

Someone REC this thing! (none / 0)

Its a good positive diary that has some great facts we all need to get familiar with.

I hope it stays on the REC list through the night.


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 03:00:08 PM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Good News. Thanks for the diary.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 04:20:22 PM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

It makes sense.

1 - Women tend to be both more liberal and more Democratic than men.
2 - Women are more likely to be pro-choice and to rate that as a more important issue (not that surprisingly)
3 - Low information women votes (and I don't mean this to be derogatory because low information male voters have just as stupid reasons behind their vote) tend to back the better looking/taller candidate.  


McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 05:25:26 PM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

As much as the MSM has not run with this story, I think that calling his wife a c**t, will get some play in the next few months.

There is a real, visceral reaction to that word, that many women can identify with.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:09:29 PM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Please look at my above comment http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/1 13554/892/3#3

And watch the video.

I think as more facts and witnesses develop the story of him cheating on and abandoning his wife to marry a 20 year younger millionair hottie(at the time) only to call her a cunt in public years later will be worse because as we know, the MSM does not have the stomach for stuff like that (as they didn't for Huckabees rapist pandering) this story will be etched into the rumor mills.

Please buy and recommend this book, the details are there and well documented.
The author is highly respected in the blogosphere:
www.therealmccain.com


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:19:03 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll see if it's at the library first.

I'll pass it to my "low-information"...oops...I meant "Republican" friends.

My guess is that moderate Republican women would be the most open to this type of info.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:27:41 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Well the library probably wont have it because its new, but what the hell do I know, I don't go to the library.

Its worth the ten bucks, if you give me the library's name I will send them the book, its only 10 bucks.

Cliff is going to send me signed copies soon.


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by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 07:12:19 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

Ah, if you're plugging the book, I understand now.

Is it on Amazon?  I'm always willing to support authors in their worthy endevours.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 07:20:46 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama Has 13-Point Lead Among Women (none / 0)

And most women who say they'll vote for McCain are unaware of his voting record on reproductive rights and women's health issues.

When the find out how lame he is, more will head Barack's way.


by Searching For Pericles on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 06:46:45 PM EST


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