MyDD :: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King

Malcolm X and Martin Luther King

by Politicalslave, Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 08:28:33 PM EST

Lately I've noticed some of my fellow Democrats are not willing to give an inch on some issues. I admire and respect that and there are thoses who are more flexible which I also respect. Many of you have supported Senator Clinton in what was a very emotional and hard fought race and yet you are getting behind Senator Obama. This of course was difficult and painful because you believe Senator Clinton is the best Candidate. You have given up your first choice for the benefit of the American people. We all have one thing in common we want to see our issues implemented. We want action. In order for this to happen we need momentum to pass laws, to do this we need overwhelming support from the American people and we need to work with Republicans. If we enter the White House with a tidal wave of support we can accomplish so much. Malcolm X was a person who would not give an inch but as he once said I made Martin Luther King look good. I agree Malcolm X played the "Bad" guy. Meanwhile Martin luther King had the ear of President Johnson.

Martin Luther King was more diplomatic and worked with President Johnson and the Kennedys to bring about progress. This to me is the key to bringing our troops home, achieving universal health care, and so many other important issues that effect all Americans. We have to work together. Republicans are already starting to show an interest in some of our issues and some are even willing to support our candidate.
At this time it is important to keep our eye on the "big picture" which means we might have to work with the "enemy" and give in sometimes in order to achieve the bigger goals. This is politics not sainthood. We need a great politician to reach sainthood.We have to follow the Clinton supporters who are supporting their second choice for the better good. I can't tell you how much I admire their sacrifice. It has been very easy to be an Obama supporter so lets learn and apply it to our Republican Brothers and Sisters. We want results! Peace

Tags: Unity, Change. Momentum, Results (all tags)

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Re: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King (2.00 / 2)

your reference to just MalcomX and MLK shows your inability to grow beyond obama's race. You could have used plenty of other examples but you decided to use MLK and malcom X. This is the racebaiting I am against that some of Obama's supporters advocate. Get beyond Obama's race and support him for ideology, not race. If everyone supported candidates based on race, I dont think Obama would be where he is now!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:04:25 PM EST

Re: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King (2.00 / 1)

To be honest I wasn't even thinking about their race. I was thinking about their ways of achieving results. I admire both not because of their color. But because of what they achieved and sacrificed.Cheers

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:14:34 PM EST
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is that why you spoke almost in glorifying terms in regard to malcom-X, who by any standards was on extreme to mainstream thinking?

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:17:11 PM EST
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Glorifying terms? As I say you see race I see different strategies. I believe both Men contributed but in very different ways. If you read my diary again you will see I'm talking about
results and how I think it is time to follw Reverend King's diplomatic example. Thank you for your comment.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:24:23 PM EST
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there is no strategy in malcomX.. Malcom-X was an extremist and he should be called what he is..

MLK was an american hero and unarguably, one of the most distinguished person who sacrificed his own life for the good of the country and the people he represented.. I hope you stop believing that Malcom-X and MLK somehow had same objectives with different strategies.. malcom-X at core was a hater.. MLK a fighter and believer in greater good!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:30:00 PM EST
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Re: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King (none / 0)

I see where you are coming from but I disagree. I
think like all of us he evolved and helped America evolve. Look into how he was assasinated and why, and his thinking at the time. Cheers

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:37:33 PM EST
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your belief almost convinces me to think if bin-Laden is "evolving" in the caves like all of us have "evolved".. supporting extremism is abetting extremism.. no matter what the extremists color/race/religion/political beliefs are!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:42:26 PM EST
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Osama murdered over 3,000 people and counting.
Are you comparing Malcolm X to Osama bin laden?
Again Martin Luther King would disagree.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:50:41 PM EST
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At this time it is important to keep our eye on the "big picture" which means we might have to work with the "enemy" and give in sometimes in order to achieve the bigger goals.

and btw I am still confused on whom you are calling "enemy".. whites whom Malcom-X treated as his "enemy".. republicans whom extremist democrats treat as "enemies" (it goes both ways).. or Hillary supporters.. whom you think as enemies?? (it goes both ways)

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:40:32 PM EST
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Re: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King (none / 0)

If you do a little bit of Googling as I just did. You will see that Martin luther King praises Malcolm X. So I'm afraid even Dr. King would disagree with you

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:46:47 PM EST
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Sorry the enemy is George Bush and John McCain.
You seem to be hooked on race and exaggerating.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:53:09 PM EST
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Re: Malcolm X and Martin Luther King (1.00 / 1)

"You seem to be hooked on race and exaggerating."

thats because of the way you wrote the diary..dont blame me for getting it wrong.. the near glorification of extremists like malco,mx ,makes me wanna puke..

if your hatred is contained just to john Mccain and George bush, then I a on your side. Actually, I dont hate Mccain, I like Obama's policies more than whatever Mccain can ever offer. hate that word I would reserve for George bush.

Again, the reason I think i had such a visceral reaction was, that i just got back from work where couple of my collegues are republicans. The moment I entered work today, they asked me if they had EVER been racist towards me.. i said no.. then they showed me Obama's speech of how republicans will scare everyone that he is black.. and said to me, "we are not racist". probably they felt they needed to say it because I am colored, that broke my heart. Sometimes, I feel like Obama should stop race baiting, but hey whatever works for him.. If thats what gets him elected, then i guess he should use it, but I dont think I would support his stance when he says republicans will call him black and scare people.. Obama should understand that the worst of racists were the 70's democrats.. stop demonizing and generalizing all republicans.. especially calling them racist..

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:02:17 PM EST
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I'm sorry you had a bad day but you injected race.
We both agree we support Obama and tell your Republican "collegues" not to talk politics at work. Your story and injecting race is very interesting since the diary was about achieving results. It's almost as if you wanted to inject Republican talking points.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:14:47 PM EST
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the reason I didnt want to diary this incident was fear of being called "concerned troll" and be t/r'ed to oblivion. We do talk politics at work. We have learnt to agree to disagree over the past 6 years. Thanks for your advice and concern.

Anyways, if you cannot see why the diary is bordering glorifying Malcom-X and having racist slant, then i guess I wont be able to neither would I want to convince you. We both are on same team and will do whatever it takes to have a democrat president, as long as we agree with the fundamental premise, i am fine with whatever you want to call me!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:22:02 PM EST
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I don't think the incident even happened. You say
you support Obama but all you've done is trash him.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:26:04 PM EST
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I dont need to prove the veracity of incident to you. thrash Obama? do you know I have given over $200 to Obama ever since he has won nomination? do you know I have attended three of obama's events till date and plan on attending more.. w/e.. the only difference is you seem to idolize him.. I seem to be an issue based supporter of him.. stop trashing people you disagrree with.. coexisting will take you a long way in life!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:31:14 PM EST
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I bet some of your best friends are black too, huh?

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:37:12 PM EST
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lol.. your racism is beyond contempt.. w/e makes you happy..

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:41:53 PM EST
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No, that's how YOU come across. You're ''colored'' huh? How's it feel to live in the 1950s?

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:45:19 PM EST
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is that your racist rant again.. whats wrong in being colored.. or is being colored limited to being african american these days? get a grip..

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:47:23 PM EST
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LOL...pot meet kettle. Enjoy that alternate universe where you reside. It's clear that no one of substance lives there.

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:49:42 PM EST
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It's clear you have absolutely no idea where Malcolm X began his intellectual awakening and where he ended up. Your posts reek of ignorance and in the parlance of some others on this site, I'd advise you to STFU before you make yourself look more ignorant.

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:29:21 PM EST
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I hope you stop vilifying me. I have expressed my belief.. you are lashing out at me for no reason.. you better stop lashing your foul mouth on me before I t/r you..

and yes, I think I know enough of my countries history to know who malcom-x was and what his claim to fame was..

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:33:48 PM EST
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Judging from your other posts I'd say you haven't "learnt" a damned thing. TR me, I don't care. I get tired of ignorant folks such as you.

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:38:32 PM EST
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Dear Gladiatorsback I don't think you've read your history. Malcolm-X was not a hater, at least not most of his life. Anybody's who been politicized by really frustrating issues knows that you need the bleeding edge, the cutting edge, the radicals and the moderates, or you don't get anything done. Malcolm saying he made MLK look good is exactly that cutting edge that makes the radical seem like a moderate. It moves everybody along, and you need them all. This is old-hat politics, nothing racial at all.

by FarWest on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 10:42:14 PM EST

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mmm mmm.. I hope you get back to history books.. better late than never..

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:03:13 PM EST
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Re: Here's Your History Lesson (2.00 / 1)

Why don't you try reading a history book?

These are all quotes by Malcolm X near the end of his life and undoubtedly led to his former mentor ordering his assassination:

"Here I am, back in Mecca. I am still traveling, trying to broaden my mind, for I've seen too much of the damage narrow-mindedness can make of things, and when I return home to America, I will devote what energies I have to repairing the damage."

"In my recent travels into African countries and others, I was impressed by the importance of having a working unity among all peoples, black as well as white."

"For the freedom of my 22 million black brothers and sisters here in America, I do believe that I have fought the best that I know how, and the best that I could, with the shortcomings that I have had...I know that societies often have killed people who have helped to change those societies. And if I can die having brought any light, having exposed any meaningful truth that will help destroy the racist cancer that is malignant in the body of America then, all of the credit is due to Allah. Only the mistakes have been mine."

It's quite clear to me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:35:42 PM EST
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noww.. like the way i said.. I hope you stop lashing out your sewer tongue at me.. w/e makes you happy.. if you think Malcom-X was a saint.. so be it.. to each his/her own!

by gladiatorsback on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:42:50 PM EST
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Saint?

God, far from it. But what I can easily recognize is that he possessed far more intelligence and integrity than those who think as you do.

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by LtWorf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:46:20 PM EST
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You live up to your name Gladiator you transformed
my "masterpiece" diary.

by Politicalslave on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:53:42 PM EST

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u write a diary the premise of which I disagree.. we discuss why we disagree.. and then you blame me for transforming your "masterpiece" diary? on top of it all, there is one hat running around calling me racist? w/e mann.. you are beyond belief.. why do you write diaries? so people can come and praise you? or so people can express their agreements/disagreements on issues you raise in your diaries?

by gladiatorsback on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 12:02:43 AM EST
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by gladiatorsback on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 12:03:00 AM EST
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I appreciate your passion and I was joking about my "Masterpiece" that's why I put quotes. We both support Senator Obama and that trumps everything.
Cheers to you Gladiatorsback

by Politicalslave on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 12:22:36 AM EST
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